[LMU-OSC News] Journal Club: Doing good research should not be bad for your career

LMU Open Science Center News lmu-osc at lists.lrz.de
Mon Jul 5 08:05:23 CEST 2021


Dear all,

here’s a quick update to the journal club. The link to the paper was missing:


When? Friday, 9.7.21, 14:30-16:00
Where? Via Zoom: Meeting ID: 917 8852 1090 / Password: Replicate (https://lmu-munich.zoom.us/j/91788521090?pwd=QmJPeEZLcGtYeGlmeGFnazVoUVFzQT09)
Paper: Leising, D., Thielmann, I., Glöckner, A., Gärtner, A., & Schönbrodt, F (2020). Ten steps toward a better personality science - how quality may be rewarded more in research evaluation. PsyArXiv. https://psyarxiv.com/6btc3/
Procedure: One of the authors will start with a short talk about the paper (roughly 30min). We will then continue with an open discussion in which you can contribute your own thoughts and questions.

You can find the current preprint of the paper that we will talk about at  https://psyarxiv.com/6btc3/. The paper refers to personality science, but we think that the identified problems and suggestions are applicable to many disciplines inside and outside psychology. However, this will be interesting to discuss at the meeting. Below, you can find the abstract of the introductory talk by Daniel Leising. Although the whole paper is worth reading, we recommend skimming at least steps 1-5 (pages 7-19) and "Pathways toward implementation" (starting from page 31) in preparation. We prepared the following key questions to guide you through the discussion and also provide some guidance while reading the paper. For each question, you can think about the suggestions from the paper, but also bring in your own ideas:


1. Which aspects should be part of a high-quality scientific article in general, regarding empirical research as well as any kind of review?
2. Which are the main problems in the current incentive structures in science and how can they be addressed most effectively?
3. Which types of consensus building do already exist (in your discipline) and do they meet the requirements suggested in the paper? You can think about the different aspects mentioned in the paper (e. g. common terminology, research questions), but also about how the consensus is built (e. g. some kind of reviews, position papers by expert groups).

We are already looking forward to seeing you soon. Feel free to contact us via reproducibilitea.munich at gmail.com<mailto:reproducibilitea.munich at gmail.com> if there are any questions.


Your organisation team
Laura Goetz, Stephan Nuding, & Leonhard Schramm


Doing good research should not be bad for your career

Daniel Leising, TU Dresden

Many of the now well-documented problems with research integrity are rooted in the current incentive structure in academia: We earn rewards by publishing a lot, getting cited a lot, and acquiring lots of grant money. All of this is possible, however, without contributing much to scientific knowledge. The question of whether we actually help solve important intellectual or even practical problems is at risk of becoming irrelevant. Moreover, the current system is easily gamed by those whose motives are not primarily scientific in nature. Being diligent in your research may easily mean the end of your career. Given that most of our work is tax-funded, and tax-payers rightfully expect some credible return on their investment, I argue that we need a radical overhaul of our incentive system: Scientists need to be explicitly rewarded for doing good work, not just lots of work.





Am 02.07.2021 um 07:31 schrieb LMU Open Science Center News <lmu-osc at lists.lrz.de<mailto:lmu-osc at lists.lrz.de>>:

Hello all,

after a longer break, we are back and would like to invite you to the third meeting of our Journal Club “ReproJuicebiliTea”, this time on the topic:
Doing good research should not be bad for your career (abstract see below).

When? Friday, 09.07.21, 14:30 - 16:00
Where? Via Zoom: Meeting ID: 917 8852 1090 / Password: Replicate (https://lmu-munich.zoom.us/j/91788521090?pwd=QmJPeEZLcGtYeGlmeGFnazVoUVFzQT09)
Procedure: We will start with a short talk about the paper (around 30min) and then continue with an open discussion in which you can contribute your own thoughts and questions.

As before, the Journal Club will consist of open talk sessions for discussing Open Science, reproducibility, and other related issues and will be explicitly open to all disciplines and institutions to create the most interesting interchange.

However, we have slightly revised the concept and intend to invite the speaker(s) of the respective paper that will be discussed in each session. A short talk by the speaker is planned for each session and allows for direct interaction and discussion with the author afterwards. You will find a short abstract for the introductory talk by our first guest below: Daniel Leising (TU Dresden) will present an interesting preprint about how to change incentive structures in academia. In the next days, you will receive the preprint as preparation for this session.



We are looking forward to seeing you soon.
Your organisation team
Laura Goetz, Stephan Nuding & Leonhard Schramm


Doing good research should not be bad for your career
Daniel Leising, TU Dresden



Many of the now well-documented problems with research integrity are rooted in the current incentive structure in academia: We earn rewards by publishing a lot, getting cited a lot, and acquiring lots of grant money. All of this is possible, however, without contributing much to scientific knowledge. The question of whether we actually help solve important intellectual or even practical problems is at risk of becoming irrelevant. Moreover, the current system is easily gamed by those whose motives are not primarily scientific in nature. Being diligent in your research may easily mean the end of your career. Given that most of our work is tax-funded, and tax-payers rightfully expect some credible return on their investment, I argue that we need a radical overhaul of our incentive system: Scientists need to be explicitly rewarded for doing good work, not just lots of work.

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