TEI proposal - attachment 2

Gautier Poupeau gpoupeau at enc.sorbonne.fr
Fr Nov 5 22:05:24 CET 2004


I'm ok with Michael. I already say in Münnich, for me it's an error to 
create specific elements for the different part of a charter. So, <seg> 
can be a solution, but there is better : <div> and we add the type of 
part with the attribute "type". It's the goal of the <div> element  to 
indicate the structure of the document. It's important, because we can 
edite another type of documents : letters, livre de comptes who don't 
have the same structure... and if we don't use generical elements to 
indicate the structure of our charters, we will not have to interrogate 
the different type of sources together and we loose the principle of 
interoperability, the goal of XML.
For the same reason (think generic, not too specific), i think the 
<document> element can be replaced by a <div type="document"> or <div 
type="charters"> and for the <num> element we can use an attribute for 
example "n". Indeed, i think the meta-information like the number of a 
charter must be in an attribute and the text beetween the element must 
be interresting for an interrogation for a research. In the same logic, 
we can say <div type="text"> for <tenor>.
For example :
<div type="document">
    <div type="regestum">
       regeste
    </div>
    <div type="text">
       <div type="protocol">
          <div type="invocatio">
             blabla....
          </div>.....
       </div>
       <div type="context">
             .....
       </div>
       <div type="eschatocol">
             ....
       </div>
    </div>
</div>

The <elongata> element can be replaced by <hi rend="ellongata">, indeed 
the <hi> element "marks a word or phrase as graphically distinct from 
the surrounding text" (tei Guideliness).
This remark don't prevent to normalyze between us the content of the 
"type" attribute.
I don't understand good the goal of the element : facsimilia, prints, 
regesta, studies. Are you sure it's an element or the content of an 
element ? If i understant good, the goal of this elements is to indicate 
wich type of edition we encode. For that, we can use the <witDetail> 
element with the "type" attribute, for example : <witDetail 
type="classdocuments">facsimilia</witDetail>.

Gautier Poupeau

Michael Margolin a écrit :

>Hi,
>
> 1. We suggest to use TEI element <seg> inside of the element <tenor> as a
>generic element for any diplomatic part encoding. The use <seg> would allow
>to avoid any restrictions on the hierarchy or naming for any given class of
>charters. The name of the diplomatic part shall be assigned to the "type"
>attribute.
>
>2.  We suggest  to use CID definitions of diplomatic parts for general
>guidance only and to allow any other name to be used without violating  of
>the <tenor> definition.
>
>Michael Margolin,
>DEEDS Project,
>University of Toronto
>
>
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