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August 2007

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CEI next facet
by Georg Vogeler Jan. 26, 2008

Jan. 26, 2008

Dear colleagues, as there weren't any new suggestions to the diplomatic discourse section I would like to open the discussion for the next facet, we called in spring not very convincing "Philology" adressing principally the questions of critical edition. The most part of our elements in http://www.cei.lmu.de/facetedview.php?facetID=65 are borrowed from the TEI. If I'm right only <traditioForm> is not really covered by the TEI. I would suggest to follow Lucianas proposal to change the name to "transmission" and would propose myself to add as childs transmissionStatus (i.e. original, copy, authenticated copy etc.), transmissionResp for the person - if known - who is responsible for the copy etc. and transmissionDate as we already introduced in the chronology facet. I'm curious to read your comments and receive other proposals for this section until end of September All the best Georg -- ------------------------------------- Dr.Georg Vogeler Università del Salento Dipartimento dei Beni delle Arti e della Storia Monastero degli Olivetani Viale San Nicola I - 73100 Lecce +39 346 7270613 g.vogeler(a)lrz.uni-muenchen.de http://www.geschichte.uni-muenchen.de/ghw/personen_vogeler.shtml

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cei: diplomatic discourse
by Georg Vogeler Aug. 27, 2007

Aug. 27, 2007

Dear colleagues, although I set beginning of June as a deadline for the discussion of the diplomatic discourse concepts in the CEI tag list I would like to pick up the issue. Our colleagues from Toronto have recently provided me with a list of parts of the diplomatic discourse they use for analysing high medieval english private charters. I have tried to integrat these into the tag list and summed it up in a facet of its own (DEEDS) although the elements all appear in the facet "diplomatic discourse" too. Their list contains several terms that may be too specific to use them as own elements, but as the CEI first task is to provide a proposal for semantics I don't see any problem to keep all the names as they could be used for type-attribute values too. But I'm curious what you think. Do you have proposals for better terms? Do you miss still elements of the diplomatic discourse that could be adressed via markup? While compiling the list I got into a problem I would be happy to have it discussed by all the diplomatic scholars subscribed to this list: The DEEDS-Project distinguishes between "issuer" and the "person acting". In charters issued by kings, popes etc. and in the tradition of the "charta" both roles seem to coincide. But am I right that it can be a concept to distinguish between the issuing notary and the persons juridically acting in an notarial instrument? Or would you propose other names and concepts to keep both case together where they are the same, and apart where they aren't? All the best Georg Vogeler -- ------------------------------------- Dr.Georg Vogeler Università del Salento Dipartimento dei Beni delle Arti e della Storia Monastero degli Olivetani Viale San Nicola I - 73100 Lecce +39 346 7270613 g.vogeler(a)lrz.uni-muenchen.de http://www.geschichte.uni-muenchen.de/ghw/personen_vogeler.shtml

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